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Irrelevant for you does not mean irrelevant for others


Nails and hammers are great but most of us have moved on to screws and screwdrivers.

What good does it do to stick your head in the sand?

CPUs are great for orchestrating work, GPUs are great for actually doing the work.


>CPUs are great for orchestrating work

Right, and wouldn't it be really nice if we could check on our orchestrators to make sure their not bottlenecking ops?

"How come we can fully load the GPUs?" "Idk boss, amelius said htop et al were irrelevant so we can't really investigate"


"Use gtop, a tool that shows both cpu and gpu load, and more. I am your boss, you should know this stuff, not me".


Screws have been around for about 3 millennia at this point. They have patently failed to obviate the use of nails. So by this analogy we can expect the 'Only GPUs do the work.' believers to be still promising this, any day now, about three thousand years hence. (-:


Software is getting more complicated and a lot of it depends on both cpu and gpu.

If you have a systems tool that gives an overview of resources used, then better monitor them both.

Imho failing to do so is not future-proof. Your opinion might differ.


Did you write this comment using your gpu?


Actually modern rendering might involve GPU


>"What good does it do to stick your head in the sand?"

Get the fuck out. I do write for GPU as well. One does not replace the other.


For high performance work, gpus have replaced cpus a long time ago.


Not for all definitions of HPC, though.

No one's doing database management on GPUs. No one's scraping data on GPUs. Can't run VMs on GPUs. Can't run web servers on GPU...


It is sunny in my backyard now. Must be sunny everywhere else


There is plenty of "high performance work" that still requires CPUs.


There's intel_gpu_top for Intel iGPUs, although it's very limited and not a great UX


top can add another column without “evolving”.


Stupidest comment ever.


> Nowadays most of my processing happens on the GPU, so htop/top better evolve or become mostly irrelevant

If you’re a 3D rendering designer, an ML engineer or a crypto bro, then sure.

Here are the common workloads (for the average SWE on HN) that use CPU/RAM:

  - compilation/builds
  - language servers and IDEs
  - test suites
  - local containers
  - local databases
  - node tooling
  - browsers
  - data processing
  - compression and encryption
  - searching/indexing
Ok sure, top/htop is totally irrelevant now /s


And your browser for instance might crash, if it runs out of gpu memory, which will surprise you if you only look for cpu/ram.

(Happened to me)




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