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The Jester, greyhat patriot who hacked Talibans' websites and forced Wikileaks to change their hosting, is now going after LulzSec. This is a lot more entertaining than TV: https://twitter.com/#!/th3j35t3r


A patriot sides with the people. A loyalist, with the government. In a couple years we may decide what he is.

If, that is, we still care.


In a couple years we'll all be saying that 2 + 2 = 5.


Patriotism and nationalism are two of the greatest diseases that humankind has ever known.

I bet The Jester is as middle-class as the LulzSec people.


I bet The Jester is as middle-class as the LulzSec people

Well, almost certainly. I doubt he'd claim to be anything else (isn't everybody middle-class nowadays? [1]) so I'm not sure the point of this comment.

[1] OK, not everybody is middle-class. The people who aren't are either too uneducated to use a computer, or too busy snorting coke off hookers asses on their private jets to be interested in this crap.


My point is that the upper-class is fighting a different war and being divided from others by nationalism and protecting a war-mongering police state from other middle-class folks is retarded.

There's a bigger game that's being played: making the internet safe for commerce. The Jester is not playing that game, he's going to be playing the "middle-class squabbles" game that distracts people from the bigger game.


Oh fab, another conspiracy theory wacko. I really thought HN needed some of them!


uh there's no conspiracy theory, what I say is in plain sight. Who benefits from the DMCA, PATRIOT ACT, TSA patdowns, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Surely not us who are in the middle class.

I like the ad hominem though, keep it coming.


You are, nonetheless, attributing to malice what could easily be attributed to incompetence.


After decades of this kind of stuff, you have to start attributing it to malice. I'm pretty young but even I know about the CALEA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_L...) from 1994.

Seriously, at what point can we start attributing things to malice? Attributing such large things to incompetence is kinda scary; we're hiring or voting for morons. That doesn't frighten you?


You ever hear the one about how you can't possibly make someone understand something if his job depends on not understanding it?


He's just a troll/internet tough guy having verbal warfare via Twitter and IRC.


I love the fact that LulzSec actually calls him out constantly, calling him a "schizo retard" and threatening to reveal the exploit he's using to take down sites. It's immature, of course, but entertaining as an observer.


No, LulSec said that he is part of the illuminati. I'm not even sure they were even serious, but funny regardless.


Really? Xerxes seems impressing to me. Not that I know too much about it, but you're not exactly convincing.

Xerxes: http://th3j35t3r.wordpress.com/2010/12/09/time-to-speak-up-p...


Don't believe me, just search through Twitter convos[1] between them. It's pretty funny actually. Lulzsec does something. th3j35t3r gets terrimad and says they are all that is wrong in the world. Lulzsec chortles `u mad bro`? GOTO 10.

He's actually laid another ultimatum (for the umpteenth time in the last 3 months) promising revenge. His first act seems to be that irc.lulzco.org is down. We shall see if anything else comes from his indignation.

[1] http://bettween.com/lulzsec/th3j35t3r


Say, during American Revolutionary War, wouldn't the Jester be considered `loyalist', rather than `patriot'?


Sure, and in WWII the jester would be a patriot.

What other fun wars can we just toss these people into?


What if he were a patriot of Vichy France?

No, I don't actually want an answer to that. Calling him a "greyhat patriot" is sufficiently descriptive to mark him out as some kind of Lulzsec mirror image.

If we're gonna have a Lulzsec, we might as well have an anti-Lulzsec as well. Makes life slightly more entertaining.


Just a note, he also had the Westboro Baptist Church's websites down for about 2 months (Feb-April of this year).


Everyone hates WBC, news at 11? Glad to see there's something everyone on any spectrum manages to agree on.




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