I find it interesting that I was downmodded on this. They ask for citations, I provided them. People wanted different kinds of data, I got data to address their points.
I don't think the problem is the citations or the data, but rather the viewpoint.
Lets be clear, you don't want citations or data. You want me to change my mind.
The downvoting's annoying. I don't agree with you, but you're presenting your argument calmly, clearly, and with supporting links - I think that's always valuable.
Hear hear. Seriously, this is how discussions should work. Ken stated that there was data, I asked for it, and he delivered in spades. Sadly, his HN Karma is close to net-negative for this thread, while mine's shot up by a few tens of points. Things absolutely should not work that way.
I'd really appreciate a citation on that.